Comment by 04 February 2021, Lisa - a Q for HMRC and not us Im afraid, Comment by Linda Powers of attorney and registered land . Please help, I'm going nuts here. posted on Sonja Gaffer Thank you. 23 February 2018, I have just bought a house only to be told by solicitor that nobody knows where the original deeds for the property are located, as the property was built in 1892 I am sure that the original deeds would hold a lot of information regarding my property some of which I might need to know but will now never find out, Comment by 26 November 2018, just enquiring my elderly aunt is getting her affairs in order and informs me as she has me named as an executor in her will , that hsbc /midland has her deeds since the mortgage was paid off years ago. Im in a slightly similar quandary. Comment by Its agood idea to keep the original deeds though, as they can hold extra information, about legal boundaries or who the previous owner was, for example. posted on 14 July 2020. Jessica - As you have recently bought the property I'll assume that the property is registered with us and the deeds you refer to are the pre-registration deeds and documents that are returned by us on first registration. JohnnyW Adam - OK thanks. This address tends not to be updated unless we receive an application to do so. posted on Surely someone at the L.R. AdamH When a title is first registered those originals are returned as the blog explains. posted on 08 June 2018. 08 January 2021, hi just a quick question over our deeds, is it possible to find out who passed on the original deeds to the land registry, i ask this because the solicitors and the last couple of lenders i have spoken to say they all used the digital records from the land registry, ive gone back as far as i can go, as our original lender has ceased trading. In my case, the property was only built 7 years ago on a piece of land that never had a house on it before, so the odds of someone turning up with a superior claim are virtually nil. The nice to have comment indicates that they can be of interest, helpful even at times but their importance dimmed considerably once the title was registered. thank you The main reason to get the changes made now would be if any communication which we may need to send you using the old address recorded in the register is likely to go astray due to using that old address. If the lease is refererd to and available then you can apply for a copy by post https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-property-and-land, Comment by Comment by Donald Gray 15 May 2018, Hi. Only individuals who have court should line up to have their cases handled. It is always very interesting to try and dig up documents and get accounts of people in the area and how different life was at the time now that libraries are rare and not all older documentation has been archived on the Internet. And if it was registered when they bought as well then its even less likely. King Find 6 Recorders Of Deeds within 28.6 miles of Catawba County Recorder of Deeds. 20 November 2020. It hasnt ever been registered as the owner has lived there for 40yrs. So if its registered then we hold that information electronically. It has now been over 10 years, can we upgrade to title absolute? I have become very aware of how efficient the Land Registry is or was. posted on The register and title plan then become the 'title deeds' hence Santander's final comment. Will these changes need to incorporated into my title deeds of my property. I moved house back in April. 04 November 2020. moved the kerb amongst other things). Yes, if you have a property alert set up for the property concerned then it will be registered. If you need a copy of the deed, you will need to lodge a postal application on form OC2 and this attracts a 7 fee. posted on Now days before we are intending on completing (31/7/2019) we have been informed by our our solicitor that original purchasers charge still remains on your clients Title. posted on Comment by Our road was built in the 1970s using land purchased from the back gardens of the houses that back onto our road, and a neighbour believes that there was a convenant at that time which specifically prevented those houses from having vehicle access to our road via our back gardens. Kim - a notice of intended deposit was a different way of securing a debt. June Thanks Adam. John Thank you, Comment by posted on Comment by It's probate. Many buyers, or specifically lenders/conveyancers, will view it as a greater risk than if it had been registered already. Gloucester is the correct address. Jane- Please see our Practice Guide 42 which explains the process - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/upgrading-the-class-of-title . Comment by Comment by I would always recommend that conveyancers do not solely rely on registered title plans. The title dees were worth purchasing but not the plan. posted on So in many cases the first registered owner has long gone and most wont have handed over the original deeds to the buyer. Hi, are the downloadable copies you can buy online, correct and up to date version of the actual plans and title register? The Leasehold Advisory Service may also be of assistance - https://www.lease-advice.org/ . Q3. As above, the purpose of the rights granted pursuant to Schedule 6 Part 1 to the Housing Act 1985 is properly defined. Madeleine M Comment by Where do I get the official version that shows my absolute title, or do I send the original back to you to update? posted on posted on Devon I had heard sometimes lenders forget to release their interest (lien? You would have to convince a judge that you had done everything possible and that there was absolutely no chance of it being sorted by your seller and if I have read your comment correctly that is not yet the case. I have written to the Solicitor who has his deeds with copies of text and emails from the original owner where he states he's expecting them to deal with me. Stewart - I am sorry you have been left a bit confused. How long does the process take and is there any way of speeding up the process? Hi, The guide was helpful (I'd included a grant of probate but not a copy of the will!). As my husband and I had paid off our mortgage aprox 6 months ago I enquired about having the original deeds returned. I'm nearing the exchange of contracts on purchasing a house. The PG1 and forms FR1/DL do provide a guide as to what is required but they cannot be simplified to the cover such a complex scenario as you now face. Comment by What can we do ? posted on This is therefore not the Title Deed just an extract for verification prior to a written request! AdamH I mentioned mortgage companies because I wanted to present all the options available to somebody trying to track down their deeds. AdamH Some lenders may store title deeds. Elspeth - is this a property in England or Wales? 25 May 2020. As the article explains we discontinued issuing Land/Charge Certificates which were a copy of what we held on record/electronically. Comment by Thank you for your reply. However if the 'extra' detail does not relate to your property and/or is not specifically referred to on the title register then it is unimportant as it does not directly affect and would be read as such, Comment by Your advice would be welcomed. Hi AdamH, I found this post by chance and found it very useful. 21 March 2018. The article above suggests this is not the case. I will go back to Santander for further information and let you know how I get on! They refer to the restricted covenant but it says the details are copied filed Frank - the position does not really change, only the facts do and who is willing to confirm them. Would be very grateful for any advice you may have. posted on 20 November 2018, thanks AdamH If they dont reassure you let me have them and Ill check our end, Comment by As the article states the original deeds/documents submitted when a property is first registered are returned to the applicant at that time. posted on The neighbouring area here is between us and the road so the other party would be the developers of the estate. Ashley B I would like to do a second search of my own but am not sure how to go about it. 08 January 2019. Comment by There is no mention of any other title deeds being "filed at" at the Registry. Please help. We simply want our deeds! 2 Pay. linda They didnt come with my deeds. Apologies if this has been asked and answered. They then sold their large, adjacent property and horticultural business in 2003 and gifted another piece of land to us (again using solicitors) for which we also have the relevant paperwork. Comment by So whoever I choose as my conveyancer will be able to find this out for me? AdamH Charles Lennard But please dont go solely on my advice as your own conveyancer will have experience also so please also rely on them Comment by My Gran is a widow and have passed away last year. I am trying to sell my house which is a free hold but there is a ground rent of 4 a year in place on the land which my house has been built on. 07 September 2019, Paul - the title plan shows the registered extent so is the one you would go by. My buyer has seen all the deeds, They used to be, jointly, his deeds too. Brings me to my concern I have contacted Land registry the bank Nationwide and the solicitor who was Nationwide's recommendation who is no longer trading but merged with a larger company and all have said they don't have the deeds. 12 October 2018. They are a historical document and wanted them returned. So if say A owned land, died and B inherited youd need probate for A and the named personal rep would then transfer the legal ownership. On the day of completion the ground rent owners sent a letter to the sellers solicitor stating that they were now aware of the lack of consent for the build and would seek to enforce actions against the breach of covenants. posted on posted on john, Comment by zoe taylor None of the property is registered. posted on I have just purchased the freehold on a 3 year leasehold new build, I have been waiting 6 weeks for some confirmation but have been told it is with the Land Registry ! My partner and I are in the process of buying a maisonette, part of an old property which has been restored and converted in 10 separate properties. AdamH I am just trying to understand all costs and logistics involved. 04 May 2018. solicitor sent the following from Land Registry confirming discharge will happen .. but the Land Registry says there been a delay to the below: Application Type: Dealing 08 August 2018, Ruth - expedition will normally mean that the application is considered within 10 working days. Im now worried I cant sell the house which is just been put up for sale. King 07 October 2020, Lee - a legal charge/mortgage is secured against the title by the registered owners. Many thanks for your prompt reply Adam. I now want to register the two cottages that are mine but am not sure of my legal position with regard to the wash house. If it was recent then it may simply have been through notifying us of her death. Reading the previous replies you have given, it might not be possible to obtain full title deeds. * Text should be on one side of the page only. If the couple were still together, I imagine this would be a simple case of updating your register, but now they're not together, it has created an ownership dispute. 25 February 2019. I am trying to find out the status of my deeds of variation. Registration meant lodging those original deeds/documents with us, we created a register/title plan and a copy of both in the form of a Land Certificate (Charge Certificate if there was a mortgage) and issued that to the applicant along with the original deeds/documents. That's nice and clear. Timothy jenkins I do state this, but dont mention every reason for wanting to keep them, as this is a general guide. I downloaded the title register for my property after paying off the mortgage on it and the bank have verified that the charge was removed. 28 April 2018. Question: when we sell house #1, can we add a condition to the sale that house #2 should retain a right of way to use the passageway? Comment by Our online guidance takes you through it so start with the register and go from there I agree with you that original deeds (or certified copies) are preferable in this circumstance. Upon sale, the buyer's solicitor felt that the separate entrance stairs were not included as part of the footprint on the deed and held over 10K in escrow to solve the problem. Martyn souch From our perspective we can't suddenly produce a legible lease if all we have is the illegible copy. The mortgage was taken out before 2003, and there were paper deeds; should we chase Lloyds for their return? 20 June 2020. ? posted on This database of documents is not a substitute for the advice of an attorney. Our house is in my name, Peter, and want transfer into joint names. 16 September 2018, Hi I hope someone can help me. Council consents Form OC2 is used to apply for copies of any deeds referred to as being filed on the register. Lew - It's difficult to comment in general terms, but it may be that if part of the property was not included in the title due to it not being demised then a new deed between the current owners is sometimes required. Also, it said something about writing to your Gloucester office. It is possible that an application is currently pending with us. are not in compliance with the recording standards. I was hoping for some advice. posted on 04 April 2018. Comment by Now i am trying to find the original deeds as I am having a dispute with one neighbour regarding the fence. John It is some kind of confusing and I found it a little complicated. Clearly whichever deed you are referring to is seen as also being important for your buyer but they/your solicitor will need to explain it for you. The guide explains how original deeds/documents are required but how they are then returned to the applicant.The forms FR1 and DL include notes to assist with their completion but the forms are not the issue I suspect here. 06 September 2018. posted on When you go to Solictor and both you and your partner sign them do you receive a copy? 18 February 2019, Emma - the lodging solicitor can submit details of the confirmed sale and ask us to expedite their first registration. Geoffrey Taylor AdamH The Guide is written for legal professionals and may there contain some unfamiliar terms. Is there anything I need to do specifically in regard to the deeds? What on earth should I do with them? If the right granted is flawed and/or hasnt been used then you may need to look at getting a new right granted by #35 or see if you can claim the right. Is this going to cause huge confusion? Graham Richards Would that change from Joint Tenants to Tenants in Common be something we can do ourselves with the Land Registry and if so what would it cost? The online service does provide an example of the title plan for example so you can see what information you are buying. Now we can't find them, so far. I feel like I'm in a real pickle about this and I'd be really grateful for some advice from someone who will give me a straight answer. I am not aware if registered so will apply for details. posted on 22 June 2020, Simon - not always as many titles dont refer. I'd check back with the solicitor for clarification as to why a delay, Comment by Hi Is it worth getting the deeds as well? I have been the sole owner of the house for over 20 years after the property was in joint names of my partner and myself prior to that) and the mortgage was paid off by myself around that time. We were sent some documents in a binder entitled HM Land Registry Charge Certificate. posted on Have a question about missing deeds and property not registered with land registry. They are not HMLR markings, Comment by We are dedicated to the safekeeping and maintenance of your public records and uphold the General Statutes of North Carolina by which this office is governed by. posted on So Lloyds would not have a Charge Certificate for your title. Comment by We do say it is a good idea to keep title deeds and provided copies of the documents I have referred to accompany the originals supplied on first registration, we will return the originals by post to the person lodging the application once it is completed. Donna Hicks Spencer turned herself in on a Tuesday morning in Dec. 2021 to the Catawba County jail. posted on But without the first, which we do not deal with, the second part cannot take place, Comment by Harsha 17 February 2020, Michele - form OC1 is used to check the register/title plan. 18 October 2019, Hi Adam posted on Heather Forrester MIKE. So the real Q is we know we dont own it based on the TP1 but theyve registered it to us. AdamH posted on posted on Title deed was in his name. Comment by 09 April 2019, Dear AdamH, GIS Staff Phone List. My property was sold on right to buy scheme by sitting tenants after 25 years.
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