The rim was now ready to accept the center core,
I've got a first class iron cross, an unmarked one. Collectors / sellers with just one or two items to sell: Send us an email to info@militariatoday.comwith 3-5 clear photos of the item, item description (be as descriptive as possible), location, price and shipping options, and we will shortlist it to be included in upcoming articles. MilitariaToday is full of interesting militaria. However, the main changes were the date on the front and the ribbon colour plus of course the swastika being added. Two extremes - an Iron Cross which has
are "flat", some have a slightly convex appearance. points of the cross were hand filed to be slightly curved and this fact,
Some Crosses were made as 'Award Pieces' that would have been issued to the recipient from their Unit upon earning the decoration. The center of the cross was not punched out and the
Like with the EK2, certain makers and forms are more sought after and valuable than others. The French Bread Factory. WW2 Iron Cross with photograph of it being worn.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'militariatoday_com-narrow-sky-1','ezslot_19',700,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-militariatoday_com-narrow-sky-1-0');Rear of the Iron Cross and the back of the photograph, which is also a postcard. Typical rear of a 1939 EK1 sure back, this one marked L52 for Zimmermann. Not all Iron Crosses are makers marked. Thin Blue Line flags, thin red line flags, subdued flags. 350.The front of the cross.Rear fixing pin which is not maker marked. War
gives away that the cross has seen the passing of the years, it gives it that
Grab the cross and shake it. We use cookies to personalise content and ads, to provide social media features and to analyse our traffic. The obverse of the cross bears the date 1939 under a "mobile" swas. This protects you in case the item never arrives or the item is not as described. time takes from edges, means that the points of original Iron Crosses today should never feel sharp to
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As you can see the fake on the left is more than 3 times thicker than the real iron cross. On this fake you can see how dull and rounded the edges are. Over time these differences, as well as makers codes, have generated a buoyant collecting field. Everything for sale on ima-usa.com is completely legal to own, trade, transport and sell within the United States of America. Veteran Certified. the touch. Have you seen this article? It is priced at 325.Front view. The rim of
method, known as the "Gablonzer Press", was introduced. World War II was the first mechanized war, and
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- Does the silver frame have any black paint on it? November 2002, 04:27 PM: Message edited by: C.Evans ], [ 24. Not only are these items increasingly rare and valuable, they are also a lovely small item that can fit into a display frame of cabinet with ease. developed quite a bit of patina, and one that has preserved its mint
A fine cross indeed, retaining about 97% of its black finish, with only a very small chip to note, and only modest tarnishing. the manufacturing process went as follows; The first operation, on a blanking die, stamped the shape of the frame into a
The
logically held a correspondingly higher level of stature than the second class. Some Swastikas were high and were level with the rim, while others were
70.00 & WW2 original German FAITHFUL SERVICE CROSS with enamel. Typically these crosses are manufactured in 3 pieces with the front and back frame holding the inner iron centre tightly in place. Zimmermann
same in the first two classes of the Iron Cross, and even the Knight's Cross. Oszeres, Jan 26, 2010 #23. chris222 recruit. that may be observed in some Iron Crosses called "veining", a series of raised
Silberschemiede-Innungen. It has a ribbed rear fixing plate, which is rarer than the more common plain version. Could anyone help me to determine its maker ? This is where a magnifying glass comes in handy. The second and more widely issued model is the Iron Cross Second Class and that was worn hanging by a loop from a ribbon above the pocket, in the same way that medals are conventionally worn today. these crosses have a look that ranges from beige to almost brownish. War
opposite halves of the frame were struck separately with dies that yielded a
Chancellery of the German Reich. The reverse in the 2nd
by manufacturer as some show more "blur" to the finish
This is almost a sure sign your iron cross is real. The fakes are made of cheap metals that won't stick to the magnet. In this case '24'. process, please see the section
Germany decorated deserving members of the Spanish Blue
In the course of WW2 militaria collecting and study, museums and private collectors will acquire items of all nationalities, including German. the maker to see photos. A 1939 Iron Cross First Class Screw back variant in original LDO case (this example was featured as an example in a Dietrich Maerz book). Cl.,- W. Deumer $380. resembling that of the Iron Cross rim. An example of the West German government approved post-war de-nazified 1957 Iron Cross. The end
Awarded for additional acts of valour to those already awarded the Iron Cross 2nd Class. One can only assume that the firms that were out of
The Shinkelform
smooth rim and crisp beading. Although all manufacturers had to adhere to strict design features and specifications, very small differences do appear between them. was then placed on a finishing die, which cropped off all the excess around the shape of the
normal if a little less desired by the average collector. Iron Cross 1st Class Field Made Iron Cross 100.00 1957 Knight's Cross of Iron Cross Ribbon Knights Cross Ribbon 100.00 WW2 Iron Cross 2nd Class Iron Cross 145.00 Iron Cross 2nd Class 1939 German Iron Cross 1939 145.00 Iron Cross 2nd Class Medal Carl Peellarth Iron Cross RESERVED German Iron Cross Medal 2nd Class German Iron Cross 2nd Class variation. First look for any markings on the ring. of the award was normally
Cased Order of the German Eagle Order, 5th Class by Wernstein. These soldiers I dare say would find it amusing to see how much discussion and bickering goes on over maker marks, patina etc on the awards they won in battle. They have continued to increase in value in recent years. canals which
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Dana's Cake Shoppe. It appears to be the traditional construction: a two piece silver frame surrounding an iron core. Be aware that some dealers who may not have detailed knowledge, may innocently be passing off a fake that they themselves fell for as a genuine item. Militaria
All medals for sale are one-offs so please check for availability. The
Once the center was
Not least because these medals are easy to display and small enough to not take up much room. From WW1 or WW2 veterans of the allied forces all wanted to take home this iconic medal and as such, the fascination has been passed onto us as collectors. and file marks of an Iron Cross. We also share information about your use of our site with our social media, advertising and analytics partners. the Iron Cross. distinguished different box available, made of black Spanish leather." as much material to crop off the new method resulted in a 40% reduction of waste, although
These crosses are also rather scarce. The German Iron Cross issued during WW1 or WW2 is one of the most collected of all war medals and yet they are still reasonably easy to find. call: These measure anything from 47 mm to 48 mm and it was believed that these were to be the new " Knights Cross " of Germany's . iron for all Iron Cross centers. The First Class Iron Cross was fixed either via a pin bar or a screw back fastener though the pocket front, depending on the reference of the maker. The previous owner said, that it was an early Grossmann, and before 1942 they were not marked. Crosses it is possible to rattle the iron inside of the frame. April 1942 Script ford GPW Jeep April 1942 script ford. Cross
antique feel. It was designed to be displayed directly on the tunic by mounting it in the centre of the left upper pocket. Though unmarked, this German WW2 EKI bears all of the hallmarks of the K&Q maker, and is a stunning example retaining 90% of its black finish, with a nice patina around the edges and absolutely no rust or corrosion. Panzergrenadier in the 116th Panzer Division "Windhund"
class. Original WWI German IRON CROSS 1ST CLASS, 1914. Some of the most popular include Pip, Squeak and Wilfred (the affectionate names given to the three WW1 campaign medals from the United Kingdom: The 1914 Star or 1914-15 Star, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal ), the French War Cross and Belgian War Cross, and the German Iron Cross, Wound Badge and the Hindenburg Cross. Affixed with either a pin back or screw back. Subject to approval,tens of thousands of people per week will see your items. A nice feature of this one is the manufacturers two-letter code, which is stamped into the ribbon suspension ring. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 921(a)(16) defines antique firearms as all guns manufactured prior to 1899. View G6443 Add to Compare. combined with the natural erosion
the silver casing gets polished, while the pearly ripped outer rim remains
All parts go through a final handling by the creator
These marks are researchable. Overall though, the medal didn't change too much between the two wars. A well worn Iron Cross First Class of the First World War. The outer rim of
A Miniature Iron Cross First Class 1939 in Silver $106. If these incidence reoccur, I will remove the offending
produce the crosses unabated for both veteran and collector alike. During WW2 around 4,500,000 2nd class Iron Crosses were awarded and around 300,000 1st class. The Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine had the following criteria; the award was regularly awarded to U-boat Commanders upon sinking
Because of its 3 piece construction the black part of the cross will normally move around. Additional details particular to
On the obverse, all grades featured a mobile swastika in the center,
rim. These "veins" are caused by rust forming underneath the bakedfinished. Picture 2 is the Iron Cross Second Class (Eisernes Kreuz 2. fastening mechanism (a pin or "screwback", discussed in the 1st Class
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Orders over 50 are sent by Special Delivery (7.50) / International Signed For (10). They represent military gallantry, albeit from the other side of those major conflicts for Aussie collectors. There are many fine and highly sought after Crosses that are not marked. (1). In the
Iron Cross 2nd Class marked '24' Typical maker mark placement on the ring of an EK2. It wouldn't be the first time that even experienced dealers and collectors had fallen for a clever fake of German militaria. Typical maker mark placement on the ring of an EK2. Worn on a length or ribbon and a loop around the neck. This is a sure sign of a fake. Klasse, or EK2 or EKII). This construction technique, which resulted in considerable savings in
This is an excellent quality reproduction of the best known award of World War II: the German Iron Cross, or EKI (Eiserne Kreuz I)! (courtesy William Stump) which shows the cloth cross in wear. Tick "+1" to bid one more increment if bidding is against you. Review is for bakery items." more. in this article bearing that name. Crosses. The ribbon worn on the 2nd Class medals during WW1 was black-white-black and then the ribbon was re-coloured black-white-red to reflect the new colours representing Nazi Germany in the late 1930s. These were highly prized as war trophies and souvenirs by Allied soldiers. November 2002, 03:47 PM: Message edited by: Martin Bull ], http://snyderstreasures.com/images/germanmilitaria/medals/ic/KCIC88MarkedFOA.jpg, http://regimentaldepot.com/TR/TR%20Medals/Iron%20Cross%201st%20Class/3500.htm, http://snyderstreasures.com/images/germanmilitaria/medals/ic/ICFC1939MM7F.jpg, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. first class, being a breast badge, featured a plain silvered reverse with only the
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relation to the rim since these also range a few millimeters up or down, although they should never be touching the
It is constructed out of a die-struck zinc . slightly lower than the rim. Documents
Iron Cross 1st Class - Maker 26 $490. So lets look at some examples of WW1 / WW2 German Iron Crosses for sale in a little more detail. We also recommend purchasing through a credit card or PayPal goods and services. . than others. A cased Iron Cross First Class by Wilhelm Deumer of Ludenscheld. finished in a mat or semi-mat blackand lacquered to protect from rust and
Two examples of this were civilian test pilots Hanna Reitsch who was awarded the Iron Cross 2nd Class and 1st Class and Melitta Schenk Grfin von Stauffenberg, who was awarded the Iron Cross 2nd Class, for their actions as pilots during World War II. The second class Iron Cross was awarded far more frequently. On this one you can see a little ko stamped on the top which is a sure sign the cross is real. delivered to the Presidential Chancellery of the Fhrer - the Medal
It was issued without a ribbon and it fastened directly to the tunic pocket of the recipient. Germany. Whilst it is the 'Iron' Cross, which will make most magnetic, not all genuine Iron Crosses are actually magnetic. pins. with most Iron Crosses the 1939 version was constructed of three pieces;
Combat soldiers tended to hold the War Merit Cross in low regard, referring to its wearers as being in 'Iron Cross Training'. originated at the end of the war, and that they date to the very beginning
Japan did so for German sailors stationed in Tokyo, and these are
WW2 German Waffenamt (Waa) Markings, Codes & Manufacturers. And finally, especially if you arent sure about the seller, pay on a credit card of via PayPal goods and services (This is often built into sellers website). Jump Section
difficulty. WW2 Iron Cross First Class The First Class medal is the more difficult one to find and as only around 300,000 were issued, they have continued to see a steady increase in value. A nice Iron Cross 2nd Class / EK2 marked Maker Marked '24'. 8. 10. An early WW2 EK1 Vaulted Pinback by Meybauer with pin design reminiscent of their WW1 and inter-war versions. TIPS FOR IDENTIFYING AND BUYING AN IRON CROSS, The highest grade of the Iron Cross Award. Join in if you dare! I managed to get an unequivocal opinion: it is an early Deumer [Iron cross 1st class, without mark - Wehrmacht-Awards.com Militaria Forums Best regards Zoltan . Firstly, because it is simply interesting to know where an item was manufactured and secondly, because it can dictate the value of the medal. A 1939 Iron Cross 2nd Class in original paper envelope of issue. rim, and should without very few exceptions be parallel with the bottom arm. These are less common and can add a considerable amount or desirability to the medal. At the end of the day, a genuine Iron Cross is a genuine Iron Cross. Rarer than the EK2 and becoming harder to source, especially the screw back variants. It has a maker mark "D-W" on the suspension ring. For starters, numerous makers were licensed by the government to make the Iron Cross, with early war examples often being unmarked, and post 1941 mandated markings being in numerous forms. We see this as a legitimate aspect of militaria research and collecting. For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. A genuine subject matter expert should be engaged and consulted before contemplating the purchase of a KC. The rear plate would be on the inside of the tunic and not visible when worn.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'militariatoday_com-leader-4','ezslot_12',704,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-militariatoday_com-leader-4-0');if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'militariatoday_com-leader-4','ezslot_13',704,'0','1'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-militariatoday_com-leader-4-0_1');.leader-4-multi-704{border:none!important;display:block!important;float:none!important;line-height:0;margin-bottom:15px!important;margin-left:auto!important;margin-right:auto!important;margin-top:15px!important;max-width:100%!important;min-height:250px;min-width:250px;padding:0;text-align:center!important;width:100%}Rear view showing the fastening plate removed.Rear view again; this time showing the fastening plate in place. Sadly they are out there. Started years earlier by Col. Vincent A. Zike as more of a hobby and convenience than a serious business endeavor, increasing requests from other soldiers, officers, and units turned . authentication is very difficult. "Nice little bakery that serves or caters India specific bakery menu. Documents
WW2 Iron Cross 2nd class - with envelope of issue with maker mark "Walter & Henlein" - full length, original ribbon stitched to the suspender ring Medal in excellent, undamaged, uncleaned condition - envelope in used, faded, very worn condition . There are some crosses that even experts will be divided on as well. You must have JavaScript enabled in your browser to utilize the functionality of this website. This list can become very handy. Again, totally free! A nice EK grouping that came with the soldier's documents and photo albums. FOR AUCTION IS A WORLD WAR 2 GERMAN IRON CROSS SECOND CLASS WITH THE MAKER'S MARK # 25 STAMPED INTO THE RING. An early WW2 EK1 Vaulted Pinback by Meybauer with pin design reminiscent of their WW1 and inter-war versions. Many originals are unmarked and many copies are makers marked so please do not take a makers as a guarantee an item is original. in this article bearing that name, Steinhauer & Luck double
wears an Iron Cross 1st Class in cloth (courtesy Frank H.). More accurate seems the
and Steinhauer & Luck , it is possible
WW2 Pilot Badge. ethical grounds, that materials other than iron for the inserts must not
The 1939 plaque is the type that is cut at 45 degree angles at the ends. This a nice example of a WWII Iron Cross First Class 1939, with a Magnetic core, flat design, and back clip attachment. The 1st and 2nd Class of the 1939 Iron Cross measured 44mm and were perfectly
This would be the case if the wearer had been awarded other medals. is indeed a site to behold. halves together. Awards
The award was graded in the same manner as the Iron Cross: War Merit Cross Second Class, War Merit Cross First Class, and Knights Cross of the War Merit Cross. Cl., - marked L/52 20, An LDO Case for Iron Cross 1st Class 1939, Iron Cross First Class 1939 - WWI Style Pin, A 1939 First Class Iron Cross; Screw Back Tpye, A Iron Cross First Class 1939 by Friedrich Orth, A Cased Iron Cross First Class 1939 by Otto Schickle. purchased screw-back system (discussed below in
Swords as well as Oak Leaves with Swords and Diamonds there is always a
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Reddick Militaria's model of the 1939 1st Class Iron Cross features the desirable flat pin back in "coke bottle" shape, with the correct style hinge and clasp, and number "50" maker's mark. The final step of frame preparation
1957 Issue WW2 German Army Knight's Cross Of . A Knight's Cross of The Iron Cross that has some wear and character to it. We also recommend purchasing through a credit card or PayPal goods and services. these were made from the 1914 dies and thus have narrower features, as
To see more on our policy in this regard. these are not as immediately striking they are non-the-less visually powerful; the patina
This indicates that two sections of the frame have been joined over the top of the iron core. The "screw-back" types, more scarcely
Check out reviews, contact sellers, again a reputable seller will happily answer questions. This is another nice example of the same medal, and this one comes with an original photograph/postcard of a soldier in a Pioneer dress uniform proudly displaying the cross being worn. Wehrmacht-Awards.com
This assumption, however, has not been documented and has actually
There are wonderful experts out there who can take just one good look at a Cross and tell you whether it's real or fake, and possibly even who made it. (a reasonable assumption, one can
Show your support and buy veteran-made wooden American flags. Lower priced items are sent First Class Recorded (3.40) or First Class if under 25 (2.00). Collecting is about community and enjoyment. Below
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be used. Eagle Order, 2nd Class by Godet. List of known 1939 Iron Cross Second class makers and marks Description These maker lists are always a work in progress and are the direct result of collectors bringing new information to the community. Clasp to the Iron Cross 1939 1st Class, 2nd Type by S & L. Germany. This one is in good condition and has a typical vertical rear fixing pin which is not makers marked. The pin-and-catch mechanism can very often reveal clues as to who
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Marked, Shinkelform
Rings are hooked to the Knights Cross, the ribbons are
$115. Joined: Apr 8, 2010 Messages: 1 . The medal and photo are available from IMCS Militaria in Holland. An Iron Cross 2nd Class of the First World war. 9. and the rims were soldered together. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Original German WW2 Iron Cross 2nd Class with Maker's Mark at the best online prices at eBay! Here are examples of the 1st and 2nd class medals. Forum, A detail view at makers and characteristics of this class, A study of the 1939 Clasps presented to those that had earned the 1914 Iron Cross, section
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Collecting is about community and enjoyment. The construction remained the same with it being built out of 3 pieces and of course the overall quality of production never wavered. The 1st class EK1 was awarded around 163,000 times during WW1 and would have been worn on the breast of the awardees uniform. "The Knights Cross of the Iron Cross, similar to the
Is it plausible? The catch, however, is broken off. The ribbon of the War Merit Cross without Swords 2nd Class could be worn like the ribbon of the Iron Cross 2nd Class (through the second buttonhole). cross is a rare variation of this class. 575,000 Iron Cross 1st Class were awarded during World War II. For manufacturing
A simple fridge magnet can show you that a cross is magnetic and can be a big indicator that you have an original. symmetrical, while the Knights Cross measured 48mm. The Spanish variation vary from well made to very low quality, but can
To see more on our policy in this regardCLICK HERE. Watch out for the condescending 'rivet counters' though who may not be as welcoming as they should be to new collectors. The 1st and 2nd Class of the 1939 Iron Cross measured 44mm and were perfectly symmetrical, while the Knights Cross measured 48mm. Veteran. The medal measures 48mm across the arms. This example is in good condition and has some age patina to the edge and light wear to the blacked centre. There are of course innocent dealers who have been fooled with a convincing fake, and then unintentionally passed it on to an unwitting customer. First Class German Red Cross Decoration, Type III . . Markt (industry trade magazine) reading as follows; "Recently, three firms have used brass and tombak
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